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Old 16-10-2009, 11:35 AM   #41
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Re: Risen Xbox 360 Review

thanks for being more constructive with your criticism. The main problem i think most people had round here was the bad attitude the other commenters had. There's no reason to be abusive to someone for their opinion.

On the ignorance comment i feel i should point out that a review is an opinion based on the reviewers frame of reference. Yes a reviewer should do some research, but we can't really be expected to go back through the annals of time to find out the origins of every aspect of that which is being reviewed. And to be honest, if Angel FEELS that the game took a lot of inspiration from Oblivion, that's her opinion.

Lets face it, oblivion is a well known game, it gives an easy reference point to work from. I've never heard of Gothic, but then i'm not an rpg player, maybe it's really well known i don't know. Point is, those that know Gothic will know that the things Angel refers to as coming from Oblivion actually came from Gothic. For the rest of people not familiar with Gothic, they are more likely to know about Oblivion and therefore can make some comparisons.

So ok, we get that the aspects of the game Angel refers to coming from Oblivion were developed in earlier games. Lets let it drop now, it's not a huge deal, and as I said above, Angel was stating an opinion based on her frame of reference. It's done with.
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Re: Risen Xbox 360 Review

Why is there so much arguing (across the web) about this game. It's a pile of ****, what's the point?
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Old 16-10-2009, 11:48 AM   #43
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Reviewer is ignorant.
the reviewer is not ignorent i should no i lived with her for years and everythin she has said is competly true i went out a boght a copy of this game myself and i wish i hadent so i am talking with my own experince

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Old 16-10-2009, 12:38 PM   #44
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Reviewer is ignorant. Its always a good idea to do some research before calling a dev a copycat. Remember all the Oblivion hype about npc's with daily routines, all dialogue voiced, dynamic combat etc. That was all done back in 2001. That game was Gothic and guess who made it? Pirahna Bytes.
Guess what, No one actually cares. The fact that Risen on the XBOX 360 is completely diabolical, is a view which the vast majority of the press concur with.

You coming onto an internet forum, and attacking the reviewer is not the best way of expressing your views, infact you miss the point more than Michael Bay did with Pearl Harbour.

Construct your criticism properly and people will listen instead of ignoring you like the other internet trolls. Even then it wont make a slightest bit of difference to how bad the XBOX 360 version of your favourite game is.
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Old 16-10-2009, 02:23 PM   #45
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Why is there so much arguing (across the web) about this game. It's a pile of ****, what's the point?
This.

If people don't stop coming in here complaining about a review of a terrible game I will lock it.
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...sorry that was immature of me.
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Old 16-10-2009, 03:36 PM   #47
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...sorry that was immature of me.
Made me lol slightly though. I tip my metaphorical hat to you, Sir.
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Old 16-10-2009, 10:27 PM   #48
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Re: Risen Xbox 360 Review

With out a "the" you were able to understand the meaning of the statement so who cares? I'm not writing a professional article critiquing the reviewer so my grammar shouldnt matter. Nor should an apostrophe between the n and the t matter in the word shouldnt since it changes nothing.

Youre attacking my grammar because you cant combat the statements I made.

ignorant : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified

THE reviewer is indeed ignorant and needs to be educated on game history

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Re: Risen Xbox 360 Review

lol chill out, I was very clearly joking - if that's your idea of an attack I bet you s**t yourself when someone calls you names

I don't need to ""combat the statements" you made because this whole thread has already done that.

But you know what? I'm gonna "combat the statements" (I like that phrase) by highlighting one key point in a sentence (you don't need to be good at grammar to know how to read, my good chum).

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It feels like Risen has stolen parts of other successful RPG games
FEELS LIKE. As in, "while playing this game it FELT LIKE I was playing other RPGs". It is almost saddening that people could possibly interpret that as "it is a shameless clone of other games".

You should never ASSUME you know. It makes you look like a w**ker.

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Oh and that last sentence was a bit of an attack.

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Old 16-10-2009, 11:06 PM   #50
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THE reviewer is indeed ignorant and needs to be educated on game history
History, smistory - the game blows on 360 regardless of whether it's original or not.
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Old 16-10-2009, 11:30 PM   #51
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Re: Risen Xbox 360 Review

So what wait wait wait, I've just noticed something in the flamebait on this thread. They've come here, complaining that the reviewer is wrong, in that it doesn't copy from Fable at all, instead, it's actually copying from Gothic, a game the developers made what, 9 years ago?

9 years and all they have to show is a repeat of Gothic 2? Not exactly what I'd call progress, to be fair.

Anyhow, isn't Gothic a copy of Pacman? I mean, you chase baddies, collect powerups, run away from those you can't kill and develop your character over the levels, by increasing his speed. What I'm trying to say in this sentence, is that opinions are relative to the experience of the person writing it.
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All i have to say on this to be perfectly honest is you sir, are a moron who needs to read what i actually wrote and not lace my work with your opinions to make them seem like im talking about something else.

Now if its really affected you that badly, guess what...you see that little red x in the top part of your screen...click it.... Now kindly jog on
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Anyhow, isn't Gothic a copy of Pacman? I mean, you chase baddies, collect powerups, run away from those you can't kill and develop your character over the levels, by increasing his speed. What I'm trying to say in this sentence, is that opinions are relative to the experience of the person writing it.
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FEELS LIKE. As in, "while playing this game it FELT LIKE I was playing other RPGs". It is almost saddening that people could possibly interpret that as "it is a shameless clone of other games".
Its obvious the reviewer was oblivious to the existence of the Gothic series.

Even if she was aware of Piranha Bytes history whats the point of the comment?

You could say that about almost any game of any genre. Very few games are unique these days.

I think game journalists should know more about the history of video games than a simple enthusiast like me.


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9 years and all they have to show is a repeat of Gothic 2? Not exactly what I'd call progress, to be fair.
Obviously the devs didnt have a big budget to work with.
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Re: Risen Xbox 360 Review

What, you mean when she said "having not played the original Gothic series i cannot really comment on that"?

You're a quick one

And the point of the comment is rather clear... it feels like a watered down version of Oblivion, etc.

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oh and Ben, i love you very very much and appriciatwe you sticking up for me but im ok Sarys a big girl lol! Thankyou though, love you xxx
i no ino but it still makes me mad tho lol
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