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Old 08-05-2009, 05:03 PM   #21
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

No OS included, but at just above 500 I think there is space for it in the budget

Interesting Plat you included a soundcard in the budget rig, which in Windows Vista will be wasted?

I'm a bit out of touch with how much wattage is needed these days, so I copied Nex and plumped for 600W, though with my prefered brand
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:28 PM   #22
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Explain how it will be wasted?, and if you mention the removal of the HAL then I deduct you one internets , if anyone decides to go with the onboard sound over a add in card purly because they think its wasted on Vista they really need to do some reading up
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Explain how it will be wasted?, and if you mention the removal of the HAL then I deduct you one internets , if anyone decides to go with the onboard sound over a add in card purly because they think its wasted on Vista they really need to do some reading up
Cheap Sound card compared to HD Onboard system run via digital will not give you that great a difference, and will only save you a few frames a second in most games.

It will only make a difference if you start spending money on a speaker system that costs at the minimum 1/5 or 1/6 the cost of that entire build.

Well thats what I thought anyway, sound card is my next by though lol.

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Old 08-05-2009, 08:55 PM   #24
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

Onboard vs cheap XFI makes a massive difference.
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

I agree that getting a soundcard is worthwhile in a powerful gaming rig, but in a budget rig I would have thought that money - in this case 60 - can be better spent (frame wise) elsewhere, like on extra LED's
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

Adding the sound card has nothing to do with FPS, its more to do with the audio quality , Onboard sound is the wrost quality you can get, absolutly crap.
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Adding the sound card has nothing to do with FPS, its more to do with the audio quality , Onboard sound is the wrost quality you can get, absolutly crap.
I don't necessarily agree with that completely. Sound card takes away load from the CPU/mobo and does actually make a difference to you fps, admittedly not a very big difference but still a difference.

Also onboard really depends on the chip in question. Some aren't actually that horrificly bad, and playing your speakers through the digital port will reduce that terribleness. Like I said also, not worth it unless you have teh money to get a decent set of headphones, or a decent set of speakers.

Good discussion on here: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=174494

But off topic anyway.
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

Snoozer back me up on this!, With todays hardware the difference in FPS is not that much.
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

My mate is running optical (which is what I meant when I was saying Digital, sorry) with his Logitech Z5500s and is using the DAC of the Logitechs, wgich basically completely bypasses any onboard or any sound card. This is because the signal isn't processed by any sound card and is alwyas processed by the external amps DAC, as it is a digital signal.
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Old 15-06-2009, 05:02 PM   #30
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

anyone care for an up-to-date recommendation? no idea what im looking at these days
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Old 15-06-2009, 05:24 PM   #31
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

Were winners picked on this? what's happening with the specs?
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Old 15-06-2009, 05:49 PM   #32
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Re: GameOn & CCL Gaming Rig - Starter Kit Spec

my go then :

Bit shy of the target amount (get a monitor with the change)

AMD Athlon X2 5050e Dual Core CPU
Code# CPU4561 46.43

Foxconn A78AX-K Motherboard
Code# MBD4978 55.91

Sony AD-7201S-0D 20x LightScribe DVDRW
Code# CDR5244 17.05

380W Seasonic S12II Power Supply
Code# PSU0132 51.89

Antec Solo Quiet Mini Tower Case
Code# CAS0160 67.54

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium64 Bit (OEM)
Code# SFT0053 82.95

4GB Corsair XMS2 DHX 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Memory Kit
Code# RAM7514 36.98

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Code# VGA5170 97.74

500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue 3.5" Hard Disk Drive
Code# HDD0143 38.49

Total (including shipping) : 436.50
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Old 15-06-2009, 07:14 PM   #33
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I certainly wouldn't bother with buying a copy of vista now windows 7 is so close.

If I was you id dl the free rc1 copy of windows 7 from Microsoft that runs till June 2010 I believe it is and then get a copy of that.
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Good point there, Wedgeh take note when buying your new box
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Quick knock up for you going on the basis you use windows 7 as your os.

If you go for a cheaper case and drop the power supply to the 400w version I recon you could just about stretch to a radeon 4870 on your budget which would make it a really good system.
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if you buy a copy of Vista before a certain date, they give you a free upgrade to 7 anyway..
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if you buy a copy of Vista before a certain date, they give you a free upgrade to 7 anyway..
Only the premium versions if what I've been reading is right.
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But isn't Windows 7 going to cost less than Vista currently does?, might as well wait.
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But isn't Windows 7 going to cost less than Vista currently does?, might as well wait.
From what I have gathered, no, and if it does, it won't be by much at all.
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Only the premium versions if what I've been reading is right.
It's not yet been officially announced yet afaik but it's meant to be:

Bought between July 1st this year till January sometime next year.

Vista Home Premium -> Can't remember which one this upgrades to
Vista Business -> Windows 7 Professional
Vista Ultimate -> Windows 7 Ultimate

I'll be grabbing a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit OEM, hopefully it'll be around 100 like Vista was when I got it OEM.
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